Talk 7, 11 July, Evening talk, Tibetan - English

THE REFUTATION OF ARISING FROM THE FOUR EXTREMES
Authentic Portrait of The Middle Way

"If a producing cause produces a product different from itself,
Then does that result exist, not exist, both or neither?
If it exists, why does it need something to produce it? If it does not exist,
what does the producing cause do?
If both, what would the producing cause do? If neither, what would the producing cause
do?" (21)

You say:"Since we assert that ordinary beings' own experience is valid cognition,
What need is there for logical reasonings?
Since even ordinary beings know that a thing arises from something different than itself,
What need for reasonings to prove arising from other?" (22)

"If things arose without any cause at all, everything that always exists arise from everything else,
Furthermore no one would perform all the hundreds of tasks like planting seeds and so force, let people ordinarily do in order to get results to arise."

Milarepa: I've got confidence that there is no arising....
Nagarjuna: there is no coming and going....
QAs

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